Meeting notes (verbatim) 30 November 1992 Meeting at Teknekron Software Systems, Palo Alto, CA Teknekron: Norm Siegler, Dale Skeen PostModern: Jens Christensen, Prasad Mokkapati, Thane Plambeck Skeen: Confidentiality of trade secrets self-describing data types package The APIs publish/subscribe facility name-based subcription pioneered this technology "areas of overlap" Siegler: Continuing obligations Things were developed while you were at Teknekron Very broad patent program Inadvertently using our trade secrets Engaged experts to confirm Protect misuse of property Safety Don't throw rocks at one another Estimate $150-200K to bring this to litigation Sentiment not to litigate Protection for Teknekron Let both businesses succeed Personal liability Behave in a responsible manner trebled damage personal risks Violation of contract/employment agreement Cooperative courts protection of software in vogue Borland Boole/Babbage We can't have you continue to market our product Business arrangements Request that PostModern stop marketing product Jens Christensen: We're not marketing your product We haven't infringed We don't like current situation We're not going to admit infringement We've worked together before, can we work again C++ object transport Provide communication interfaces Find working relationship Skeen: Teknekron's business is transporting languages Provide C, C++, other languages C++ is just one way to express object-oriented concepts Abstractions are very hard to duplicate Prasad: Other sources for self-describing nature of data, publish/subscribe, Teknekron wasn't first C doesn't = C++ Siegler: In the near term: Reiterate asking PostModern to remove it from marketplace Embodied ideas Objective is to protect Teknekron's own intellectual property PostModern stops marketing it Teknekron does not file lawsuit Terms discussed in interim Micron Technologies Specifically, stop selling to Micron Skeen: It's a nice design, you guys did a good job.